done, in some states, like massachusetts, where i have practiced, you have an affirmative obligation. this is another executive order that is quite nice but does not change anything. that is the way that it has always been. those on the right who are talking about a new norm about the doctor-patient relationship, it is not. that is the way it has always been. >> this skirts under the difficult question in many ways. anyone that deals with public health, police, trauma surgeons, like my husband, these people, usually under amles, who clearly have psychotic breaks over and over again, and their families are despair about what to do about it, and there is no ability to commit them for any sustained period of time. once they are not an immediate threat to them or others, you cannot hold them. >> we had a lawsuit, dixon v.